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Post by Minuteman on Feb 28, 2010 17:25:03 GMT -5
This is where you can place your Gun Camera pictures from our missions for all to admire...
See the New Board that has been created for Screen Shots!
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Post by Scandfox on Mar 1, 2010 2:46:15 GMT -5
~S~Sir !
Never used gun camera, perhaps more pictures with a tail-camera when flying AAC missions when trying to escape to home base after the bomb-run.
What a mistake to think that FW-190 speed performance in dive could help You......
Next time I fly Allies.
brgds S......x
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Post by bluezulu on Mar 1, 2010 9:54:33 GMT -5
~s~Scan, sorry i have to dissagree,i think diving to loose your attackers is the 190s best attribute,it worked quite well for me on sunday,i was cought a couple of times,but it all depends if your hit in the wrong place. You did a great job on sunday,i think you even got more hits on ripe than Hubba.Oh bye the way,theres no way we are going to let you join the allies as your our top pilot,ha,ha
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Post by AAC_Maj. Hubbabubba on Mar 1, 2010 16:07:38 GMT -5
~S~Gents, I flew two missions, and they can't be more different from each other than these two were! During the first one, I took off late, had my elevators freeze as I was diving for the bombing, realized only too late that I was hitting the "3" key instead of the "4", missed the base entirely, went back to assist only to be raked by one of the Allies (can't remember which one), tried to escape flying low, but was again peppered by Cobra then Minuteman, and went to the drink... gee If I had left the game at that point, I would be in full agreement with Scandfox; the Fw 190A is a dog. But I didn't left. Took my five minutes penalty at Étaples, flew east of Ripe until I could turn attacking from the N-E, adjusted my elevators trimming to compensate the freeze-up attitude in a dive, was met on my way down by Cobra on his way up, shot a few rounds and shells just to keep him out of my target trajectory, was nipped by Cobra's bullets but delivered my three bombs smack in the compound, probably destroying the HQ and the briefing-debriefing huts as well plus the officer's mess, started my run for home only to see Cobra gaining on me as my engine was running rough. I then decided to climb slightly and, thanks goodness, Cobra was not gaining on me and was staying low. When I calculated that I had enough space for the maneuver, I made a left high yo-yo followed by an half-roll, diving inverted on Cobra. He climbed to meet me and I poured led into him. A few second later, the marquee told me I had a confirmed kill on him, hooray! ;D Trying to making it back home, I caught Bluezulu call for assistance and decided "what the heck". I saw him go down as I was approaching Minuteman and Cobra and went for Cobra who was leisurely turning right. It was a high deflection shot from 600 meters but I did it! I had shot Cobra twice during the same flight! Boasted by my success, I tried to pin on the wall Minuteman and Graham, but they took "evasive actions"; the ran away! So I made it back to Étaples on a rough engine but an otherwise sound aircraft. Only on my way home did I learned that Cobra was not flying his beloved Hurry but a Spit Mk9, which explains his first catching up. I think that my elevators trimming, which I had no time to correct precisely after the bombing, was the the reason of my little edge in performance. Who knows? Same guy, same bird, two very different outcomes. That's war...
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Post by aac bluezulu on Mar 5, 2010 6:10:37 GMT -5
~s~ Hubb
It just goes to show what you actually can miss going on in the mission when you are yourself fighting your own little battle.I did not realise your sucsess,Well done sir,to get two kills on cobra in one mission,i dont think i know anyone who has achieved that before? He has started to fly the spit mk9,because the axis have learnt the best thing to do with him is to outrun his hawker,so he has told me he needs more speed,I believe the fw190 will still outdive the spit mk9,i was reguarly clocking speeds in the 500s,but if your damaged thats a different ball game,she just dont like it. Well thats it your now an axis pilot----PERMENENT!! good job
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Post by Scandfox on Mar 6, 2010 4:28:56 GMT -5
~S~ Al !
"In July 1942 a Spitfire IX was flown in a comparative trial against a Focke-Wulf 190A which had fallen into British hands when its pilot landed by mistake at Pembrey RAF base at in Wales. The trial showed that there was a remarkable similarity in performance. The following are extracts from the official report.
SPITFIRE IX VERSUS FW 190A
The FW190 was compared with a fully operational Spitfire IX for speed and manoeuvrability at heights up to 25,000 feet [7620 metres].
At most heights the Spitfire IX is slightly superior in speed to the FW190 - the approximate differences in speed are as follows:
At 2,000 ft [610 m] the FW 190 is 7-8 mph [11-13 km/hr] faster than the Spitfire At 5,000 ft [1524 m] the FW 190 and the Spitfire are approximately the same At 8,000 ft [2440 m] the Spitfire IX is 8 mph [13 km/hr] faster than the FW 190 At 15,000 ft [4573 m] the Spitfire IX is 5 mph [8 km/hr] faster than the FW 190 At 18,000 ft [5488 m] the FW 190 is 3 mph [5 km/hr] faster than the Spitfire IX At 21,000 ft [6400 m] the FW 190 and the Spitfire are approximately the same At 25,000 ft [7622 m] the Spitfire IX is 5-7 mph [8-11 km/hr] faster than the FW 190
Climb: During comparative climbs at various heights up to 23,000 feet [7012 metres], with both aircraft flying under maximum continuous climbing conditions, little difference was found between the two aircraft although on the whole the Spitfire was slightly better.
Above 22,000 feet [6707 m] the climb of the FW 190 is falling off rapidly, whereas the climb of the Spitfire IX is increasing.
Dive: The FW 190 is faster than the Spitfire IX in a dive, particularly during the initial stage. This superiority is not as marked as with the Spitfire VB.
Manoeuvrability: The FW 190 is more manoeuvrable than the Spitfire IX except in turning circles. The superior rate of roll of the FW 190 enabled it to avoid the Spitfire IX by turning over into a diving turn in the opposite direction.
The Spitfire IX's worst heights for fighting the FW 190 were between 18,000 and 22,000 feet [5486-6707m] and also below 3,000 feet [914m].
The initial acceleration of the FW 190 is better than that of the Spitfire IX under all conditions of flight, except in level flight at altitudes where the Spitfire has a speed advantage.
The general impression of the pilots involved in the trials is that the Spitfire Mark IX compares well with the FW 190. Providing the Spitfire IX has the initiative, it undoubtedly stands a good chance of shooting down the FW 190."
Conclusion : FW 190 is faster in dive and is 7-8 mph faster at low level.
brgds s......x
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Post by bluezulu on Mar 6, 2010 10:10:46 GMT -5
~s~ all Great bit of info Scan,I wish the 109s would perform in the game as they compared to in real life.I think they are the hardest plane to fly in cfs,you only have to look at them the wrong way and they stall out,let alone pulling out of a dive,but in the war they were more than a match for spits and the hawker in the right hands.Having said that i still like the challenge of flying them,and if you get a kill it feels all that bit better. Its good to see the forum being used to discuss these issues,and would be good to hear other peoples opinions.There seems to be people coming in as guests,but they dont log in and dont leave any posts,there must be some AAC pilots among them. So come on guys chip in.
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Post by Minuteman on Mar 6, 2010 16:34:47 GMT -5
~S~ Gents...from an Allied point of view...the P-51 is no picnic to fly! After 2 years of regular flight, I still run into the occasional stall....She will push to the edge, but disengage flight in a heartbeat. I find the FW-190A a very formidable opponent...especially in the capable hands of you Axis pilots! Last week's game was a "foxhunt" for the Allies...we could chase you and try to lure you back in...but in reallity, you were luring us away from Ripe! Only after wounding one of your birds could we slow you enough to do some damage! Oh...and Hubba..."running away" was hardly our strategy...low fuel and an inability to catch you on egress were the main factors in our pealing back towards base. As Allies broke off, Axis would reengage. With enough fuel and ammo, we would start yet another chase. Limy could only throw rocks at you at the end. We made efforts to box your flights in for engagements...with measured success. It was fun to hear Cobra's surprise on your sudden reversal..it caught him flat-footed and totally unaware! (A very rare position for him!)
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Post by Minuteman on Mar 6, 2010 16:40:05 GMT -5
~S~...The Gun Camera Gallery has been created as a seperate Board. Please use it for Screenshots Only!!!
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